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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Dec 8, 2006 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Would you go to a show if........

After reading in amazement about "Why Dark Star?" and then pondering it for a while, I realized that that is what makes the Dead a life long journey for most.
You start out enjoying a couple songs, then more, you go to some shows and start really enjoying it. Then for whatever the reason or substance, there is that one moment when you "Get it", it clicks. Then the real journey begins. The intent listening, the history, the influences, the sharing of knowledge with other heads.

For me, the thing that makes the Dead different is the IMPROVISATION. It's what seperates "The boys" from the rest. It enables every night to be different. It's what captures your imagination and never let's go. It makes the impossible, possible. It's why when you come across a show you never heard before, it's like finding a solid gold nugget.

Definition: Philosophically, improvisation often focuses on bringing one's personal awareness "into the moment," and on developing a profound understanding for the action one is doing. This fusion of "awareness" and "understanding" brings the practitioner to the point where he or she can act with a range of options that best fit the situation, even if he or she has never experienced a similar situation. The study of the skills and techniques of improvisation can strongly influence ones competence in business, personal life, and/or in the arts.

So, Would you have gone to a Dead show if you knew there would be no songs played, just pure improvisational music?
Some of the folks who consider it the "Noodling" may say no. I would have been been in my listening glory!! That is why I love the Pre 75 boys the best. How about you?

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Poster: jackstraw86 Date: Dec 8, 2006 7:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

Most definiately I'd be there. Not knowing what's coming next is the best. That's what I loved about the improv parts of any song they played. You never knew where the Bird Song jam would go on a given night, etc.

Those of you that REALLY subscribe to liking totally improvised music, should check out the Oresund Space Collective. They have a few shows here on the Archive and more on their website. They're based in Sweden/Denmark. They have no idea what they're going to play when they get on stage. They have no songs; they just start a groove and go with it. It's quite amazing. Check them out if you're an improve nut like I am.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Dec 8, 2006 5:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

No doubt.

I would have gone even if they were only going to do a staged reading of Mourning Becomes Electra.

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Dec 8, 2006 6:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

Is it ok if I'm honest with this, and say kinda no. ?
I was a set I fan for so long, and it took me a really long while to finally warm up to the jams, to 'get it'. I loved knowing all the words to the songs, singing along, clapping with the crowd sometimes, dancing all over the place, the aisle, the hallway, the bathroom!! one song slow, the next fast! I loved not knowing what was coming next. If all they did was play inprovisatation pieces, it would have been.....the same.

It's probably why I have this obsession with shows with stories. Not knowing what was coming next meant anything could happen....

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 8, 2006 6:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

nothing wrong with that

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Dec 8, 2006 7:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

"I loved not knowing what was coming next. If all they did was play inprovisatation pieces, it would have been.....the same."

Well, The very nature of Improvisation is that even the musician doesn't know what is coming next, so how could it be ...the same?

Maybe you should just say you like straight songs with no jams.

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Dec 8, 2006 7:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

"Maybe you should just say you like straight songs with no jams"

your original question was would you go to a dead show if you knew it was only improvisational music. Loving the dead now, I would say yes, but in honesty I'm glad it was both songs and jams... I'd rather have both.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 8, 2006 7:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

alot of the time they knew what was coming next though (according to the insider i knew) - it was just the fun of the band playing in between the songs - granted they would sometimes stray

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Poster: deadmax Date: Dec 8, 2006 4:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

Absolutely! Sometimes I wish the songs hadn't gotten in the way of the jams. I do like the songs though and there is history there, but the improv is where the sky opens up and you see God (or Dog if you're lysdexic), the angels sing and Jerry can't mess up the words. or Bobby.

Drums and Space were my favorites just to watch the boys do what they do best.

Good thought for a Friday night.

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Poster: Fishead Date: Dec 9, 2006 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would you go to a show if........

sure with the right amount of vitamin a ..i'm there!!!

but no jerry's soulful voice on morning dew,wharf rat ,terrapin-that would be hard to take...
i need my jerry every which way ... :)



This post was modified by Fishead on 2006-12-09 18:23:52